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	<title>Comments on: Measurement Misnomers, and Toyota Dealership Problems</title>
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		<title>By: Wes Bushby</title>
		<link>http://jamieflinchbaugh.com/2010/01/measurement-misnomers-and-toyota-dealership-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Bushby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad this topic was brought up again.  I do function from observation.  The automotive supplier I last worked at had company, plant, department and personal KPI&#039;s to meet.  Everyone wanted a plan for improvement, which I provided at my manager level.  However, I never followed let alone look at what I wrote down as a plan.  There was an intent for what was written down, which was continual improvement.  So I performed just that.  Observations, working on the current &quot;seen&quot; bottleneck, improving processes with the people in mind who had to work within the processes, and so on.  Every quarterly review of the KPI&#039;s I had improvement as an outcome of &quot;do what needs to be done now&quot;.  So at least the measurements had shown I was doing something positive.  Though none of the improvements were done for the sake of the measurement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad this topic was brought up again.  I do function from observation.  The automotive supplier I last worked at had company, plant, department and personal KPI&#8217;s to meet.  Everyone wanted a plan for improvement, which I provided at my manager level.  However, I never followed let alone look at what I wrote down as a plan.  There was an intent for what was written down, which was continual improvement.  So I performed just that.  Observations, working on the current &#8220;seen&#8221; bottleneck, improving processes with the people in mind who had to work within the processes, and so on.  Every quarterly review of the KPI&#8217;s I had improvement as an outcome of &#8220;do what needs to be done now&#8221;.  So at least the measurements had shown I was doing something positive.  Though none of the improvements were done for the sake of the measurement.</p>
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		<title>By: JC Gatlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC Gatlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We follow strict metrics as well to ensure we &#039;re delivering a plesaurable home buying, building and ownership experience. And our production, construction and sales teams review those metrics often.

It&#039;s funny that you mentioned manipulating the metrics in your article. At one point, many years ago, we had incentives tied to the performance depicted on those metrics. However, we found people circumventing the system to improve their numbers, and came to the realization that metrics and incentives must be mutually exclusive.

Today, our metrics play a large role in our data gathering and follow-up on PDCAs, and are warning lights that there may be problem occurring and we need to &quot;go see.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We follow strict metrics as well to ensure we &#8216;re delivering a plesaurable home buying, building and ownership experience. And our production, construction and sales teams review those metrics often.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that you mentioned manipulating the metrics in your article. At one point, many years ago, we had incentives tied to the performance depicted on those metrics. However, we found people circumventing the system to improve their numbers, and came to the realization that metrics and incentives must be mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>Today, our metrics play a large role in our data gathering and follow-up on PDCAs, and are warning lights that there may be problem occurring and we need to &#8220;go see.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Flinchbaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Flinchbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments Mark. Metrics absolutely have their place. In fact, you might even call me a metric nut. But you must be careful in (a) how you design the metric and (b) how you use it to make decisions. Any powerful tool must be used with care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments Mark. Metrics absolutely have their place. In fact, you might even call me a metric nut. But you must be careful in (a) how you design the metric and (b) how you use it to make decisions. Any powerful tool must be used with care.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark R Hamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark R Hamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie,

Well, my Acura dealer pulls the same perfect survey stunt with me. Can&#039;t say that I have figured out a proper and pithy response yet - although the service is typically excellent.

As for measurement not quite being king, I agree. There must be balance, a balance that I believe is provided in a mature lean management system. Within that system, leader standard work and the related visual controls facilitate direct observation. The system&#039;s daily accountability process encompasses, among other things, the tracking and review of balanced performance metrics (safety, quality, delivery, cost, etc.) within the context of brief, focused meetings. These same meetings take into account the &quot;findings&quot; from direct observations - those prompted by leader standard work and formal and informal gemba walks.  This three legged stool of leader standard work, visual controls and a daily accountability drives both process performance and process adherence.   

While metrics may be an abstraction, they do have their place. They do provide stakeholders with a perspective on performance trends and gaps and, if properly done, tell a story and provide some (initial) direction relative to countermeasures. The danger is when metrics are not informed by  direct observation. Unfortunately, often the higher one goes in an organization the more the balance is tilted to metrics...until there is no balance, just &quot;really smart&quot; people in a conference room with charts and graphs, unencumbered by reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie,</p>
<p>Well, my Acura dealer pulls the same perfect survey stunt with me. Can&#8217;t say that I have figured out a proper and pithy response yet &#8211; although the service is typically excellent.</p>
<p>As for measurement not quite being king, I agree. There must be balance, a balance that I believe is provided in a mature lean management system. Within that system, leader standard work and the related visual controls facilitate direct observation. The system&#8217;s daily accountability process encompasses, among other things, the tracking and review of balanced performance metrics (safety, quality, delivery, cost, etc.) within the context of brief, focused meetings. These same meetings take into account the &#8220;findings&#8221; from direct observations &#8211; those prompted by leader standard work and formal and informal gemba walks.  This three legged stool of leader standard work, visual controls and a daily accountability drives both process performance and process adherence.   </p>
<p>While metrics may be an abstraction, they do have their place. They do provide stakeholders with a perspective on performance trends and gaps and, if properly done, tell a story and provide some (initial) direction relative to countermeasures. The danger is when metrics are not informed by  direct observation. Unfortunately, often the higher one goes in an organization the more the balance is tilted to metrics&#8230;until there is no balance, just &#8220;really smart&#8221; people in a conference room with charts and graphs, unencumbered by reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragan Bosnjak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragan Bosnjak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thinking Jamie!
I would add that probably some dealers are acting upon what other suppliers have teached them: you must have a perfect score on the query or you&#039;re out of business. I don&#039;t think Toyota has teached that behaviour to them and also think that Toyota would have been happier to know their problems and customers concerns in advance...
It could be that today&#039;s Toyota problems depend also on this factor, of not having teached their dealers how to comunicate with them and with the customers effectively in order to not have the need to take all the vehicles off the market...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thinking Jamie!<br />
I would add that probably some dealers are acting upon what other suppliers have teached them: you must have a perfect score on the query or you&#8217;re out of business. I don&#8217;t think Toyota has teached that behaviour to them and also think that Toyota would have been happier to know their problems and customers concerns in advance&#8230;<br />
It could be that today&#8217;s Toyota problems depend also on this factor, of not having teached their dealers how to comunicate with them and with the customers effectively in order to not have the need to take all the vehicles off the market&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Flinchbaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Flinchbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, this is not about Toyota&#039;s current quality problem. I am choosing to postpone talking about it until we learn more facts, since speculation and manipulation seems to be much greater than facts at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, this is not about Toyota&#8217;s current quality problem. I am choosing to postpone talking about it until we learn more facts, since speculation and manipulation seems to be much greater than facts at this point.</p>
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